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our economy and create jobs and the decisions we have to make in the coming weeks to help that come about. it is part of governing that these issues arise and we have to deal with them. >> this is a question on the fiscal cliff. you say he will not sign any bill that extends the bush cuts. it is highly unlikely that he would get a bill like that. how open is he to the notion that -- in terms of going forward? is he willing them out completely? >> i am giving you a pretty good printers on the president's thinking going into the process that he said it begins with the specific proposal he has before congress, a plan that achieves balance and that allows us to continue to invest in important areas of the economy. he has not been wedded to every detail of that plan. i will not negotiate hypothetical details. i was side speaker banner and say i am not in the position of boxing ourselves and others. he looks forward to the meeting with leaders in congress. and as clear principles fam belief that we can reach a compromise is comparable. it would allow us to address the fiscal cliff challen
. >> host: so a couple powerful phrases in the book were read economy. you can attach a that number if you could explain a little more clearly. in a competitive market, government was set to rule and instruments to with liberalism adjustables as physicists figure out how to have a level playing field as possible. you have to keep trying to make sure the playing field is level how to allocate capital and to succeed. it's also natural tendency to hate towards monopoly or duopoly, or a couple successful firms keep getting bigger and bigger and removing competition. when that happens, once your monopoly or duopoly, you don't want to invest in innovation. you don't want to take risk. you just want to mind the market for right-thinking in which means earning profit in an economy. all of these rules and regulations in every shop tour i'm sure you've read things you have not read in the news media. i show again and again the market is being. this is terrible and explains why we are in economic doldrums and my redundant job creation. >> host: let's go through some of these examples. we'll get back
. the president did not get a mandate on the economy. it is like me saying my wife married me for my height and athletic prowess. it is not true. you have a mandate on fixing immigration, putting supreme court justice. congress does not have a mandate either. stop negotiating the press and stop talking, start negotiating, while the market to just digest and trade under normal environment. we may not see a lot of volatility, that is not such a horrible thing in the market not selling off 20 handles anytime anybody opens their mouth. what we don't need is more talk. just the way it is. liz: mark sebastian did not even drink red bull today, the traders are so anxious and tired of seeing their ability to trade on real fundamentals, isn't that correct? the news they have made the market look so much higher. >> there's a lot of positive news. housing market, it was not that bad. i think fundamentally if we get a deal done i agree, we are going right to 1500. i was actually surprised the big fiscal cliff caught us by surprise so bad. liz: we want to bring in the very people talking about that, sun
revenue, it's the idea of actually growing our economy, which we all claim to agree on, but there's certainly different proposals to do that. with that, i want to thank everybody for joining us here today, including our new congressman-elect, first one, you're going to mark that as one of your high points of your congressional career, being the first one here as well. but thank you. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012] >> on "washington journal" this morning, we'll be joined by republican representative ron paul of texas, it a member of the foreign affairs committeeful he'll take your questions about today's hearing on the attack on the u.s. consulate in libya. you'll hear about the fiscal cliff from independent senator bernie sanders of vermont, a member of the budget committee. also, the kaiser family foundation will look at friday's deadline for states to establish health insurance exchanges under the affordable care act. "washington journal" is live on c-span every day at 7:00 a.m. eastern. the senate
westgate in london on all of that. japan's economy shrank, first contraction since last year. the data adding to signs of slowing global growth and tensions with china nudging the which i into recession. and yen minute's main oil export pipeline shut after it was blown up in two pieces. local news organizations didn't identify the attackers, but they've been repeatedly sabotaged. finally, iran launched a military drill across half of the country today. government warning it would act again against aggressors. >> where is your jacket? >> i decided in high spirit of rising above to take it off today. but i can't find my pin. >> i'm putting mine on right now. >> it's you saunderstood we're above. p. >> and you're about to talk about corporation news we haven't especially touched on petraeus. maybe we'll sneak that in. >>> htc announcing a global patent settlement and ten year licensing agreement. the deal sends one of the first major conflict of the smartphone patent wars. apple sued accusing the company of infringing on its technology. and citigroup will pay 15.5 million each to former c
.s. economy from going over the so-called fiscal cliff. in the last 24 hours, newly relie detectorred president barak obama and house speaker john boehner have both vowed that they will not let this happen. but is that even possible given today's decisive political climate? before we get into the discussion, let's first listen to what both men had to say. >> this is an opportunity for the president to lead. this is his moment. >> i'm committed to solving our fiscal challenges, but i refuse to accept any approach that isn't balanced. >> arthel: let's talk about it now. matt is the former white house political director under president george w. bush. alexis is the executive director for the american values institute. good to see both of you. >> great to be here. >> arthel: very good. so let's say that each of you is going to broker this deal. tell me the concessions you would make and what would be the deal breakers. i'm going to go with you first, matt. >> okay. so i'm in the seat of power. i guess if i'm a republican, i want to make sure that if i'm going to negotiate a deal that i've
% that we can't afford and according to economists, will have the least positive impact on our economy. >> all right. i don't know about you, but to me, that sounds like a fairly staunch and unwavering position. and yet, the president did insist he's staying open to new ideas. take a listen to this one. >> i am open to new ideas, if the republican counterparts or some democrats have a great idea for us to raise revenue, maintain progressivity, make sure the middle class isn't getting hit, reduces our deficit, encourages growth, i'm not going to just slam the door in their face. i want to hear -- i want to hear ideas from everybody. >> all right. now, that second one -- that second one was pretty good, if you ask me. and again, i'm trying to be optimistic about tax reform rather than higher tax rates that will damage economic incentives. but does this really sound like somebody who's ready to make a deal? that's a big question. here now is cnbc contributor keith bicycoykin, and david web radio talk show host and co-founder of tea party 365. steve, did the president sound like he was rea
with the economy. and make sure we do not go back into a recession. but they do want to stick to their guns. they feel like they are really won the election and not to cave in to the republicans on the upper income tax rate. host: chicago, ill., let us go matt, hi. caller: my comment is this, in order for us to solve this problem, both sides are going to have to experience a pretty significant amount of political pain. from my side, i am a lot of the center, i would like to see texas go up on the wealthy. but at the same time, being from chicago i remember when the simpson balls report came out, and congresswoman should kautsky, she said this is horrible there's no way i will vote for this. and i did not think that was right either. clearly, we are going to have to do something about medicare. i am not in favor of the ryan plan. my overall point is, and unfortunately we have not seen this in the past few years, steve is coming more from the right than from my side, but the overall bank is that both sides are born to half to be willing to take on a significant amount of pain. i hope the will
when our economy is still recovering from the great recession, our top priority has to be jobs and growth. that's the focus of the plan i talked about during the campaign. it's a plan to reward businesses that create jobs here in america, and give people access to the education and training that those businesses are looking for. it's a plan to rebuild our infrastructure and keep us on the cutting edge of innovation and clean energy. and it's a plan to reduce our deficit in a balanced and responsible way. this is even more important because at the end of this year, we face a series of deadlines that require us to make major decisions about how to pay down our deficit -- decisions that will have a huge impact on the economy and the middle class, now and in the future. last year, i worked with democrats and republicans to cut a trillion dollars' worth of spending, and i intend to work with both parties to do more. but as i said over and over again on the campaign trail, we can't just cut our way to prosperity. if we're serious about reducing the deficit, we have to combine spendin
to rebuild its economy with china's kropsi cooperation. attention is focused on when kim will schedule talks with the new leaders. >>> the eurozone economic shrank from july to september compared to the previous three months. this is a decline for the second quarter in a row. this also means the common currency block slid into a recession. the european union's data office released the preliminary figure of gross domestic product for the third quarter of this year. it fell 0.1% from the previous three months. among the 17 nations in the eurozone, portugal's gdp fell 0.8%, spain slumped 0.3%. germany and france, the strongest economies within the eurozone, both posted a 0.2% growth in the third quarter, but compared to a year earlier, the greek economy was down 7.2% in the quarter. >>> let's check on the markets. european shares are lower as the eurozone economy has gone back into recession. london shares down about 0.3%. frankfurt, the dax index declining almost 0.5%, and the cac 40 in paris declining by 0.5%. meanwhile, share prices across the asian europe was lower everywhere but japan beca
income tax of 15%. let's make the gift tax 15%. make estate tax 15%. you will see the economy explode. you will see all kinds of revenue come in. use the president's own words. everybody should pay their fair share of flat tax. melissa: i couldn't agree with you more. it is a fantastic idea. it will also never happen. so what do you think is the real solution that we could come to on this? >> well, like i say, it wasn't mitt romney's --. melissa: i no. are republicans going to have to give in and raise marginal tax rate, yes or no? what do you think?. >> i know a lot of us will not. i can't speak for everybody but i know an awful lot of us who simply will not because we know know the damage that will be done to the economy. people will lose their jobs. they will lose their benefits. they will lose their health insurance. too many people will be hurt. so we really do not want to see this president hurt anymore people as he has. melissa: is it worth going over the fiscal cliff? is that better than caving on this issue? >> well, what we've seen in our negotiations over the last two years
the entire size of our economy. there will be many who will say that we should confront the first of these challenges by letting the tax rates expire and pushing the sequester off to some other day. there would have disengage in the same short-term temporary policies that has helped put us into this fix. let's have more of the same. let's agree to a drive our economy off part of the fiscal cliff instead of driving it off the whole fiscal cliff and we will call it a day. that might get us out of town but it will not get us out of the problem. and it will hurt our economy. we cannot keep going on like that. we cannot keep setting the bar that low. it is time that we raise the bar. the american people did not give us a mandate to do the simple thing. they elected us to lead. they gave us a mandate to work together to do the best for our country. we know what the best thing is, an agreement that sends the signal to our economy and to the world that after years of hunting on the fiscal challenges we face, -- punting the fiscal challenges we face, 2013 is going to be different. if we wa
what i said on friday. right now, our economy is still recovering from a very deep and damaging crisis. so our top priority has to be jobs and growth. we've got to build on the progress that we've made. because this nation succeeds when we've got a growing, thriving middle class. and that's the idea at the core of the plan that i talked about on the campaign trail over the last year, rewarding manufacturers and small businesses that create jobs here, not overseas, providing more americans the chance to earn skills that businesses are looking for right now. keeping this country at the forefront of research, technology, and clean energy, putting people back to work rebuilding roads, bridges and schools and reducing our deficit in a balanced and responsible way. on this last item, we face a very clear deadline. that requires us to make some big decisions on jobs, taxes, and deficits by the end of the year. both parties voted to set this deadline. and i believe that both parties can work together to make these decisions in a balanced and responsible way. to meet with labor and civic leader
contribute a little bit to helping our economy, and the majority of the people who are fortunate and made a lot of money, they're willing to do this. democrats, independents and republican support the direction of the president regarding this fiscal cliff issue. thanks, everybody. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012] >> you just heard senate democrats speak about elections. the republicans will talk about their own election. main senator-elected angus king saying he'd caucus with the democrats. here's what he had to say. -- maine senator-elect angus king saying he'd caucus with the democrats. here's what he had to say. >> good morning. all set. today i'm announcing my decision as to which party, if any, i'll associate myself in my work here in the u.s. senate. before doing so, however, i'd like to outline my thinking on this issue and set out the principles that have guided my decision. in answering this, who will you caucus with question, repeatedly during the campaign -- and i emphasize the word repeatedly -- i
important issue was. the economy was way up on top, almost 3/5ths of people said the economy was the number-one issue. the percentage who said that foreign policy was the most important issue was down in the single digits. that is not the driver. foreign policy is usually not the biggest driver. it is worth noting that those voters who said that foreign policy was the most important issue, president obama won that group. host: that made for about 5%. the economy, 59% put that as the most important issue. federal budget deficit, 15%. talk about how the health care law played into voters' attitudes? 18% said it was the most important issue. guest: that is an important thing. almost one in five voters said that health care was the most important issue. the president won roughly three- quarters of that vote. throughout the republican primaries, the issue of obamacare was a huge rallying cry. in 2010, the republicans won some big victories because of anger on the part of conservative voters about the president's health-care law. by the time you get to this election, you see this turnaround were
everyone will be affected if there is no deal. it could throw the economy back into recession and cost no income families about $2,000 more next year. those are some of the latest headlines on c-span radio. [video clip] >> i enjoyed watching book tv -- >> i enjoy the rebroadcast of various television news programs. i like that they provide coverage without the sound bites. it really gives me an opportunity to consume as much information on what is going on. c-span is a great way to kind of get an unfiltered view of the day's events. >> c-span, created by america's cable companies in 1979, brought to you as a public service by your television provider. >> "washington journal" continues. ,ost: we're back with evan bayh now co-founder of the no labels organization. let me begin with the petraeus resignation. is your reaction -- what is your reaction? guest: it is if personal tragedy. he was doing a fabulous job as director. we're fortunate that we have a great leadership team. michael morrell house now now stepped- hasno in. host: did he have to resign? guest: my own answer is yeah, i thi
on the economy could be catastrophic. president obama delivers a big economic speech in about eight hours, and he wants tax cuts for the wealthy to extire. house speaker john boehner drawing this line in the sand. >> raising tax rates is unacceptable. and, frankly, it couldn't even pass the house. i'm not sure it can pass the senate. >> white house correspondent brianna keilar is live from washington, d.c. for us this morning. brianna, speaker boehner seemed to be offering the president on olive branch earlier this week when he talked about the possibility of increasing revenue. but here he's taking a hard stance against tax increases. what does that say about the chances of a compromise? >> well, it may actually sound kind of like it's splitting hairs. but it's really two different things where he's talking about increasing tax rates. he says he's not okay with that. but he would be maybe okay, maybe amenable to increasing revenue. to bringing in more tax dollars, because there is a difference. and what he's saying is part of a chorus of conciliatory language that we're hearing from democrats an
of the fundamental question of the internet economy. >> right, it certainly is and again, no one, even in the children, even in the copa context where we proposed before you collect information online from children you have to get parental consent, we don't think, i mean that doesn't stop advertisements for children. it only stops particularly types of information and advertising it back and monetizing that information and soling it to third parties and using it to advertise to children. all it doesn't say you can't collect certain types of information. that is our proposal. we are taking comments. we haven't made up our mind precisely where we're going to go. >> let's sort of talk broadly about a concept of unfairness. so the ftc has a mandate of enforcing deceptive and unfair practices right? >> right. >> traditionally you erred on the side of deceptive. >> well, you know, if you make a commitment to anyone in this room we will in the privacy content we will protect your data and you don't honor that commitment that is deceptive practice. that is an easy thing to understand conceptua
to go over the fiscal cliff and see the economy gumbel before the majority of the people -- crumble before the majority of the people realize how much trouble we are in. i have end-stage renal failure and on medicare and receive disability each month. i do dialysis three times a week. that said, i will willingly and gladly take reduction in my benefits if it means we can reduce our deficit. i have two young nieces, and i'm looking out for their financial future. in fact, if i knew that taking away all of my benefits would get rid of our debt, i'd do that today. mr. president, hear tony's plea. don't take us over the fiscal cliff. tony and his nieces need you to lead. they need it now. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. the chair recognizes the gentleman from illinois, mr. gutierrez, for five minutes. mr. gutierrez: mr. speaker, i'm here today to make an introduction. i'd like the republican party to meet america's latinos. it's hard to meet us all at once. there are more than 53 million of us. but let me tell you a little bit about who we are and what
. if we want our economy to flourish and grow we must live up women's leadership. very important. women in the academic world, in health care, any subject you can name. is more successful, more efficient with the involvement of women. when women came to the polls last week, they registered their support for those who understood the challenges that women face. it is really a remarkable thing. under the leadership of the women standing here, the voices of america as mothers, daughters, and grandmothers will be heard. women are the bread winners for our families. in many cases, the small business owners in our communities. and the workers that will spur our prosperity. they're holding jobs of the office, creating jobs as entrepreneurs and owners. we keep our focus on women's rights and health, equal pay, choice, we also know that women are focused on the same issues all of us are -- the economy, jobs, the future of the middle- class and the national security of our country. they are concerned about fiscal soundness for america because they think about the future. as we move forward to deba
the economy stronger white a set of commitments to finance, a high level of public investments in infrastructure and education and a lot of bipartisan support for that. i think there's a lot of support for doing the obvious things you have to do. you have to pass an extension tax of the amt is very important to do. you listen carefully there's a lot of support for trying to make real progress on the long-term fiscal soundness. there's a lot of benefit in doing that for the economy. how you do that is important. so i think this is a solvable problem and we want to do as much as we can to take an advantage of this opportunity to make some progress in each of those fronts. >> there's one thing about which they're doesn't appear to be a lot of agreement and that is should the bush tax cuts on the overt and hundred 50,000 crowd be extended or should taxes be raised? >> i heard jay carney an hour or so ago say the president will not agree to anything that extends the tax cuts on the upper brackets. that sounds like a line in the sand; is it? >> i do think it's important to start by a
that are now griffin to various parts of -- given to various parts of our economy, for example, the oil and gas industry, and shift those tax breaks around so we would fund infrastructure project. in fact, that's what the president proposed to do. before i go further into how we might use the effort to build infrastructure, i want to just say that that infrastructure program is going to be absolutely essential to rebuild an extraordinarily important part of this nation. that is the east coast. new jersey, new york, connecticut and some parts of pennsylvania were devastated. there is going to be a multi-billion dollar rebuilding program necessary just to go back to where those parts of this country were before the storm hit. much more will be needed to protect those parts of this country from future storms that are certain to occur. i'll let it go at that. sigh my colleague from new york -- i see my colleague from new york city has arrived here and i'd like her to pick this issue up and talk about the devastation that occurred in her communities and then we can come back to the infrastructure .
to tackle the fiscal cliff, an economic mandate that could throw the economy into a tail spin unless democrats and republicans stop it all. house speaker john boehner wants a deal on spending cuts. president obama says that is not enough. >> if we're serious about reducing the deficit we have to combine cuts with revenue. >> joining us is jonathan strong. even if tax rates went up on the wealthiest households earning more than $250,000 a year the president, as the president demands, this would actually do almost nothing to reduce the deficit. i look at the joint tax committee report of conscious saying it would reduce the deficit only by 7%. that is 7% out of $1.1 trillion. in many ways is the president's solution more of an illusion? >> he is trying to sell this as a matter of fairness. he seems to be making progress politically on that front. you have a good point. another good question, there isn't any theory this would help the economy. the estimates are it would hurt this the economy. is now the right time for that? people are still hurting out there. >> gregg: the president is
begins today. president obama will be making a statement on the economy. he'll speak from the east room of the white house at 1:05 eastern time. you can of course catch all of it right here on cnbc. john boehner is also scheduled to hold a you news conference today, as well. st. louis fed president james bullard is saying the u.s. economy is strengthening. but he's cautioning that leaders must tackle the looming fiscal cliff. a conversation we can't get away from. speaking in missouri yesterday, bullard also says he doubts the central bank will extend a bond maturity extension program that expires at the end of the year. bullard is not currently a voting member, but he will ebb in 2013. and china's national congress continues with new leaders for the communist party set to be named later this morning. today a rising star said the party is moving towards requiring officials to their their assets. so an interesting piece in the chinese business press this morning. >> we have been talking about the fiscal cliff and -- >> we have? >> and yesterday somebody tweeted a new drinking game. every
and pushing the sequester off. it won't get us out of the problem and it will also hurt our economy. because the american people expect us to find common ground, we're willing to accept some additional revenues via tax reforl. >> now, when i hear that, i don't hear i'm okay letting taxes go up on some people. i hear i'm okay closing loopholes and deductions where some high income earners may pay more than others. is that a deal you could work with? >> the question is is, what is speaker boehner saying? he really talking about a balanced approach or what he used to talk about and republicans have claimed, which is another round of tax breaks for wealthy people will somehow trickle down, magically boost the economy so much that it will pay for itself and not increase the deficit. we know that doesn't work. and if that's what speaker boehner's talking about, then really, it's not going anywhere. now, if he's talking about what we call genuine budget revenue, that's a different story and if that's the case, i'd love to see his proposal. the president has put his on the table for revenue. let's s
's economy. can you put that number in perspective? 700,000 fewer jobs. >> i can put the report in perspective. it was turn ired by independent businesses that don't want to see their tax rate increased. it is counter to all other studies that i have seen on this thing. that report got in to my inbox and got deleted. >> okay. thank you for your honesty. >> doesn't make sense. it doesn't make any sense at all. >> you hear the number but thank you. that is what i was trying to get at. we heard president obama say if congress fails to come up with a deal by the end of the year, everyone's taxes will be going up. it would be bad for the economy. i was reading new york times this morning op-ed piece that said it may not be a bad thing if we drive over the fiscal cliff. it is worth points out the fiscal cliff isn't really a cliff. it's not like the debt ceiling confrontation where terrible things might with well have happened right away if the deadline had been missed. he goes on, this time nothing very bad will happen to the economy if the grooimt agreement isn't reached until a few
of a complex, global economy. it's just one reason over 75% of our mutual funds beat their 10-year lipper average. t. rowe price. invest with confidence. request a prospectus or summary prospectus with investment information, risks, fees and expenses to read and consider carefully before investing. >> well, it didn't take long, talk of compromise, post postelection, turning into stalemate. john boehner and barack obama not budging as we rapidly approach the fiscal cliff. >> 2013 should be the year we begin to solve our debt through tax reform and entitlement reform. i am proposing we avert the fiscal cliff together, in a manner that insures that 2013 is finally the yirr that our government comes to grips with a major problems that are facing it. >> on tuesday night, we found out that the majority of americans agree with my approach. and that includes democrats, independents and a lot of republicans, across the country, as well as independent economists and budget experts. that is how you reduce the deficit, with a balanced approach. >> four years of the obama administration, and the econo
that is divided, there was an earthquake. it was an election that, republicans should have won in a bad economy, with all that money, and they lost virtually every group. they even lost cubans in florida, which used to reliable vote. so you have to ask what does the republican party do next? but that is not my top priority frankly. >> don't broad brush it excessively. the republicans kept the house, the democrats kept the senate and the president, a democrat, kept the white house. that is a split verdict. >> beneath those numbers there was an earthquake john. >> oh, the hidden earthquake. nobody felt it? >> everybody feels it. >> nothing on the restrictter scale but there was -- on the scale. >>> when you think we had 23 million people unemployed and the worst in our history and he still carried it through. i would call it a landslide under the conditions he had to run. i think it was a decisive victory. >> it was on several counts. first the exit polling showed most of the voters did blame the economic problems on bush and they wanted to give obama more time to work on it. pretty significant c
with regards to not hurting the economy as much. it is when we are slowing that this really hurts. >> well, i think wall street isn't buying this infomercial. judging from had today's losses and 700 points worth since the election either they want that money back guarantee or they don't want the money, period. >> i think that's it. i think they don't want the money, period. i think they want simplicity. i think they want cuts on the tax rates. but maybe an elimination of loopholes. things to sim plaw fight the code and -- simplify the code and make it clear that all of the money will be taken away and spent in other places that again the government says they know better about. so that is really the issue here. we aren't seeing any clarity on. >> have you been a wonderful contestant. thank you as always. >> accept my parting gifts, thank you. >> will this number though stop this one? the first number is how many people were lining up last week for first time jobless benefits? 439,000, well above estimates. hurricane sandy blamed for a bulk of it. it shows the whichy is still not heading in the
given where our economy is. >> is it on the table to talk about. >> i made clear yesterday that raising tax rates is unacceptable. frankly, it couldn't even pass the house. >> at issue here, a perfect economic storm that could have serious consequences. nbc's andrea mitchell breaks it down for you. >> reporter: the campaign was tough. victory was sweet. now comes the hard part. >> on january 21st, 2013, there's going to be a massive fiscal cliff. >> reporter: so what exactly is the fiscal cliff? it's a nightmare combination of tax heights and spending cuts that congress agreed to to force themselves into a compromise but so far they haven't agreed on anything so barring a last-minute fix at the stroke of midnight on new year's eve the tax cuts expire, alternative minimum tax kicks in, more than half the families with two children would oe 4,000 more. on top of that, the 2011 temporary payroll tax cut would expire. so add on a 2% tax increase for most workers. then there would be automatic spending cuts in 1,000 government programs, defense, welfare, extended unemployment benefits. every
obama and prime minister cameron can do together to get the global economy on track and resolve serious situations like syria. >>> good morning from washington. it's friday, november 9th, 2012. this is "the daily rundown" i'm chuck todd. let's get right to my first reads in the morning. at 11:00, in the white house east room the president will speak to the nation for the first time since his election about what he hopes to accomplish before the end of the year. before taking on the new challenges though the president changed his campaign workers this emotional video from wednesday was released by the obama campaign. >> you guys have done, and the work that i'm doing has improved. i'm really proud of that. i'm really proud of all of you. and -- and what -- [ applause ] >> now it's back to governing. today the president will layout his marker for negotiations on the fiscal cliff. the combination of tax hikes and spending cuts that will kick in at the end of the year if nothing is done. a midnight december 30th, the bush tax rates will expire, the alternative minimum tax kicks in. more tha
on the economy. but in fact, that's the part of the bargain that you have to do. and we're at historic lows on revenues. so i've always agreed to it. i voted for the simpson-bowles, i've been part of the gang of six, gang of eight. i agree that we have to go there, but how we go there is very important in terms of the incentives for capital investment in this country. and we have do it in a way that does not diminish that. >> let me turn quickly to lessons from this election and where things go beyond this negotiation over fiscal matters. senator schumer, immigration. are we going to get comprehensive immigration reform? it sounds like, if you listen to the house speaker, they've had a chang of heart, they want a comprehensive plan. is there news to be made on this? >> yeah, i think so. senator graham and i have talked, and we have resuming the talks that were broken off two years ago. we had put together a comprehensive, detailed blueprint on immigration reform. it had the real potential for bipartisan support based on the theory that most americans are for legal immigration but very much
said they would damage the economy. our economy is growing slower now than it was then. we are really regulating to disaster. >> epa in 2010, diana? $23 billion of regulatory costs for the year 2010. >> that's what epa says. it is really probably a lot more than that. i mean, thee regulations, the mercury, the car ever carbon, ozone, each cost $100 billion each. >> all right. >> they don't have to justify them with benefits because it is maximum achievable control technology. in other words, they want to get as much as they can out of the air and don't have to justify the benefits. >> all right. robert, let me bring you in. you got your own epa in california. and you got your own cap and trade in california. and you got your own tax hikes in california. i guess everybody is going to move to texas. is that true? leave town and go to texas? >> we are certainly going to do everything we can to prevent that. we are hoping to work with the governor and he will do the same. >> you don't really believe that, do you? i mean, governor brown wanted the tax hikes. governor brown is one of the bi
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